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May I ask why you have joined my group?

Idk I'm adding people that have the same experiences so we might all have a better understanding of how things work in this world

Explain.

Well it says your interested in the paranormal, it is not something to be messed with but it can be understood and balanced. That is part of what indigos do if you don't know what indigo is you can look it up on google ( indigo children ). It's just a description of indigos, I believe we are people that are connected to our spirit/soul. That is how we get our abilities also almost everyone that is indigo ( connected to their spirit/soul ) can see other spirits/souls, not all of the spirits/souls are good.

I am a magus. The idea is similar, although you seem to have a very limited view (and I also doubt that you are, in fact, a magus). A spirit is not a soul, and neither is a ghost. They have qualities that are shared with a soul, but are far from the same.

2 things. 1) there are like 8 different words that all describe the same thing like indigo, magus, wikian, light workers, spiritual beings ect. I just use common know names to people. Also most religious people say they have a soul, most Native Americans say they have a spirit. I believe they are the same thing just different words. 2) I believe no one person is better than any other, some people might be more enlightened or have more knowledge but that does not make them better we are all equal.
My view is not limited I do much more than deal with spirits/souls, I am also a healer, I have healed many things and I have many other abilities. I am on here to meet other people that need help or can help me to learn more.

1.That is the talk of one who refuses to embrace what power means. A warrior is better than a peasant. There is no way to get around that. If they truly were equals, they would both be warriors or peasants. Saying that someone is your equal when they are not is an insult: an insult to yourself, because you lie by saying that, and an insult to him, because it implies that he could be like you, too, when he may in fact not be able to. A man in a wheelchair cannot run a marathon, and it would be an insult to say that he could if he just tried. But being powerful holds obligations, the first of which is to your lessers. The weak respect the strong, and in exchange, the strong help the weak. You insult every person with an insurmountable handicap and every genius when you say that no one is better than any other. To the crippled, you say that they are not trying hard enough. To the genius, you say that their mastery does not matter.
2. I doubt that you have any understanding of what a magus is. If you do, answer me these two questions: what is the rythmakthi, and why is it?

1) I never said anything like that I mean all are equal because I would not see someone insulted because they are different. A handicapped person many never walk but that does not mean they can not be spiritual. There is a difference between every person but the differences connect us. Lets think about 2 types of people lets say 1 type is smart and the other type is strong. The smart people would have ideas to build structures for things in this world, houses, hospitals, zoos, ect. The smart people would need strong people to build these structures. The smart people wouldn't be able to build without the strong people and the strong people would need the blueprints to be able to build it. So with out them working together nothing would get done. So they are equal, they worked together towards the same goal. 2) I never said I knew what magus is. I imagine its probably either a religion, belief or understanding of some spiritual matter. There is many words to describe everything. 4 religions that I know of are the same thing except they change some words like saints or angels. It's all in how we interpret things that separates most people.

1. Those two people in your example are not equal. One people is strong, the other is smart. Both are human, though: that is the important thing. But there is a difference between the basic value of a human life and the idea that all are equal. If a homeless man is killed, it is a tragedy, but most likely unimportant in the grand scheme of things. If a king is killed, it is still a tragedy, but one that shakes the world with its passage. Tell me, then: are they truly equal? Remember, the word "equal" means "one and the same", like how 1=1.
2. A magus is not a faith, or a creed, or a philosophy. It is what you are. A condition. We blaze with the power that is rightfully mankind's, the power of High Magic. To compare me to you is like comparing apples to oranges: I have met "Indigo Children", and although your people are enlightened enough to not suffer the rythmakthi, they are not us. The parlor tricks (no offence) of the Indigo Child I met might have dazzled the mundanes, it did not approach the glory of sorcery.

Ok what I mean is we are all different, we all have different beliefs, we all walk different paths. But I bow to no man and I would have no man bow to me that is where I say all are equal. As for kings I don't believe that is right why should one person rule over others, they shouldn't and that's all because they have a blood line to someone noble, it's not right. The world is what we make of it, it's how we interpret things and how we act. As for indigos it's not a " parlor trick " there are many things I have done some I can prove some I can't but my healing ability is one I can prove I have healed broken bones, 3rd degree burns and any other physical injury and I've healed hundreds of people that would back me up about it. I do not seek to argue about what religion, belief or understanding is right, many wars have been fought and many people have died defending their beliefs. I seek information both to learn and share. I think people from all beliefs could work together to make things better. Instead of arguing about one true path because we are all different I don't believe there is one true path but I do believe everyone is capable of great things that is why I say all people are equal.

1. So you give no respect to others, and want no respect? What kind of person are you? You forget why people bow. Bowing to someone is a sign of respect and deference to their opinion, not of a tyrant. And although we all walk different paths, not all paths should be tolerated. Should we respect those who hunt their enemies like beasts and devour their flesh?
2. What would you have instead of government? Barbarism? Tribal warfare? Even Atlantis had the mage-kings. They were the wisest of the wise. They ruled because they had the right by proof of their wisdom and power, and knew that they served their communities. But they were still kings, and were afforded all the respect of the title. It had nothing to do with blood: it had to do with whether or not they deserved to rule.
3. I can heal many things, but some things cannot be healed. Can you forever return to a cripple use of his legs? Sight to whose sight was lost do to massive destructive trauma of the eye? Parkinson's, or autism? 
4. This is not a belief. This is truth. You will not except that, because Indigo Children reject authority as a matter of course, but it is. Atlantis stood, the Fall happened, the 11 trap mankind inside of the Lie. To say that there is no such thing as truth is to insult all things.
5. You know that not everyone is capable of greatness. Some people will never amount to anything. And the world needs these people. Not everyone can be the president, or an astronaut, or a fireman. The world needs ditch-diggers, construction workers, and people who work at McDonald's, too.

Ok well we agree on some things, believe it or not. But you seem to seek power to fuel your ego. You would see people bow before you, I would see people rise with me. Indigos have origins to Atlantis to, it was destroyed because people let greed and power get to their head. As for the governments in this world, do you believe they are good? They wage war with everyone, they kill people, some would leave people to die if they don't have money. I do not believe chaos is the way to fix things, I believe unity is, all people working together to make things better. Like have you seen the damage people have done to the world? I would try to fix that before we argue about government, religions and beliefs. Also one more question, if you could influence the world what would you do? If you could change things, what would you change? Or would you have it the way it is right now?

Let me spell out what is the truth. What happened: EP Link

Who the bad guys are: EP Link
How we stop it: by compiling as much knowledge as we can, and teaching it to those who will not abuse power.

I would see people bow before me, but out of respect or awe, not fear. I want respect. I have toiled for the greater good, and wanting to be respected for my work is not egotistical. Here is something that you will have to learn. You love diversity. But diversity and unity are in opposition. There will always be conflict as long as there are differences. But without difference, culture stagnates. Both have both good and bad things to recommend to them. I think that what you really want is cooperation. As for your last questions. If I held power like that held by the biblical God, the first thing I would do is toss the 11 back onto the earth, stripped of their stolen power. Then, I would return the world to the Pre-Atlantean state: all mankind healed and returned to the proper state (that of a magus), and the heavens reunited with the rest of reality. Then, I would make it so no one else could ever repeat the mistake of the 11. Finally, I would divest myself of all such powers gained by whatever events granted me the power of a god.

Ok see now we can agree on some of these things, the important matters. I agree power should not be abused, I have been able to control 3 of the 4 elements. Earth is the one element I haven't been able to learn. I believe respect is earned, not given. I do not like diversity I'm trying to say people are equal and you have said how different people are. ( I don't want to argue about that anymore ). I have never heard of the 11 more information about the problem there would be good and I have another question, where do you stand about demons? Do you think they exist or not? Good or bad? And what do you think their purpose is?

Ok I just read your post about the 11 and what happened, so I was right power and greed destroyed the world. But how are we suppose to build a latter to get to the heavens to fix the problem? I can go into OBE and do things. Do you have any idea where the heavens are? Like its somewhere in the galaxy right? Or do you know where the exiled 11 are?

How foolish you are. Do you even understand how much is on Earth? An out-of-body experience, in the form of traveling into the Astral, that wondrous space of thoughts, ideas, and dreams, is child's play for even a novice magus. You have read, but you did not comprehend. We are not supposed to build a ladder; that was what led to the 11 in the first place. The 11 are not exiles: they are mad gods, their own power chaining them. You could no more face one of them in battle, even if we knew where in the heavens they were or how to reach them, than an ant could defeat a battleship. The heavens were not just separated from earth: they exist in their own place, with the hideous void writhing between it and the rest of the universe like a serpent, threatening oblivion to any foolish enough to attempt passage. And it is no idle threat, either: the void is all that should not exist.

Ok I don't like how you call me childish and your condescending attitude. I just read one thing that you wrote and asked a question. Can we stop the insults and have a discussion ? Demons? Did I get a answer? And as for the 11 I thought your post said that god or gods were overthrown by 11 humans? Again it is new information I'm trying to understand it, that doesn't happen in 20 minutes.

I never called you childish. I called you foolish. Foolishness is not a person's fault. Willful ignorance is, but foolishness is not. First, I do not believe that you have asked me any questions about demons, looking back over our PM (although it is possible that I am missing something). the 11 were originally humans, but they succeeded in claiming godly power for their own. How else could they have lived for thousands upon thousands of years?

Ok demons, do you believe they exist? Good or bad? And what do you think their purpose is?. Ok as for the 11 did they over through a god or gods? Or did they just gain more power when they got to the heavens?

1. There are a lot of different things that are labeled "demons". All of my statements will only apply to the "true demons" or Atlantean demons. I promise you are not friends with an Atlantean demon, because friendship is antithetical to them. They could no more understand friendship than a shellfish could understand opera. A true demon comes from a place called "Nothingness" in the Atlantean tongue. It is Hell, Sheol, Gehenna, Naraka, Tartarus. Demons begin their lives as whispers on the wind, born of one supremely evil action. Every demon is tied to the Seven Deadly Sins: those are real, too, although the definition of them in the eyes of religion is often flawed. Every true demon is more than that, though: they hunger for a particular form of sin. Some want to corrupt particular types of people, other want a sin carried out in a particular way, or for a particular reason. A true demon can speak any language. They poison everything they touch, leaving their marks upon them. They can smell the stench of sin upon every person, and know every moment of weakness you have ever displayed that is pleasing to them. No magic can read a true demon's mind, or discern if they are telling the truth: there is a reason that the archetypal demon in the West, Lucifer, is called "Father of Lies". Every demon gains power from their favored sins.

2. Traditionally, the legend says they overthrew the gods. However, this is the only mention of them in the history. There are gods, but they are just incredibly powerful spirits.

1) demons. I agree with you 100 percent, demons are bad in almost every way. I have been hunting them and getting rid of them, with them gone from the area I live in I've noticed a positive change.2) ok so the balence could be restored with strong spirits/souls?

Also on a side note I might know why you don't like indigos so much. I'll be honest we are not organized I have yet to find a group of them. Then there are 2 types I don't agree with 1) is the indigo god consept, where they think they are gods. I do not agree. 2) is some believe we are aliens in human bodies. I do not agree with either of those and they will not meet me at middle ground to discuss important things. Then there is the government that is labeling us saitanests, that is not true. I believe we are poeple that are connected to our spirit/soul that is how we have abilities, idk if their is even a true indigo religion. I believe in a religion and have faith, I believe faith is a important thing that this world is missing.

1. You can't "get rid" of true demons, at least not permanently. You can destroy spirits, but they are more "natural" than true demons. "Destroying" a true demon merely sends it back to Nothingness. I have always held that it is far better to bind a true demon to an object and locking it up in a deep, dark hole in the ground. That way, it cannot be called back later. 
2. Wrong kind of spirit. Spirits are not people. I would like you to assume that I mean "spirit" when I say "spirit". Not ghost, not soul, spirit. And no. They are in the heavens. Breaking the back of the Lie is the "main theater" of this war.
3. Both of those theories are lunatic. However, the government holds no stance regarding Indigo Children. That above top secret site is a wire for the conspiracy nuts.

Ok there are 3 things I've done to get rid of demons1) send them back to the void. 2) change them, I've changed some into light being they protect and fight with me now. 3) I absorb them, take their power and leave them with nothing.

1. Nothingness and the void are different. Nothingness is part of the Skein of the Cosmos, like how 0 is a number. The void was never meant to be, and the things it spawns are nothing like true demons. A true demon hungers for sin and souls, the creatures of the void hunger for oblivion.
2. The very idea that such a thing is possible is laughable. A true demon IS sin. "Cleansing them of sin" would be impossible, because that would be cleansing them of themselves.
3. "Absorb them"? You think you can swallow a true demon like a pill? Even if you stripped a true demon of all of its names (and it is a Herculean task to get rid of even one of a demon's secret names), you would merely send it back to square one; it can start all over again from there. They all began as whispers on the wind, driving men to sin.

All the things I've said, I've done it is posable with enough training

Magi have studied true demons since before the time of Atlantis and have concluded, "you cannot purify that which is made of impurity". Are you aware of the timeframe that encompasses? 80,000 years. Are you going to say that those venerable sages, some of whom risked their immortal souls by venturing into Nothingness itself, were not trying hard enough, or were stupid?

I will let you know when I find a demon I can't stand against, I have removered hundreds from this world and people have thanked me for helping them. As for the people that didn't make it through the nothingness, I would say they weren't ready. They either didn't have the numbers for the fight or they themselves weren't strong enough.

1. "Hundreds?" This explains a lot. You are not excising true demons. You are merely dealing with malicious spirits. There are only a couple hundred true demons (anything above a whisper in a person's mind) in the entire world at any one time. 
2. Do you seriously think that true demons are mindless killing machines? The danger of entering Nothingness, from what I have gathered from the accounts, is not death or pain. It is returning with a belly full of sin, or in the thrall of a true demon. That is what they want. They do not merely commit evil; they nurture it. They know that we are better at being evil than they ever could be.

I have fought many demons, I do not fear anything. I may have fought a true demon. What do they look like?

1. There is no base shape for a true demon. The only one I ever crossed used to be a ghost of a slumlord, before the greed he held in life followed him into death and drew the whispering one that had plagued him all his life into his body. It looked like a hollow, rotten old man, lacking eyes and any flesh in his abdomen. Its flesh hung on its bones like tattered rags. He was bound in chains made of as many things that it had owned in life as it had hoarded. More than that, it felt evil. It felt like I was trapped in a death grip, and would never be released. It felt like money must feel in the hands of a miser. A disgusting, revolting thing. The world is better with it cast back into Hell, and the ritual that summoned it here burnt.

2. Your pride is a weakness. No one fears nothing. A true demon could prey on that pride, act servile to you and offer its aid. It may even fake a conversion to righteousness in order to drive you to greater acts of hubris.

Ok I agree and I've seen many different demons. The shadow ones you consider weak. So do I, I've gotten rid of hundreds of them in the last year but there were 2 that we much stronger than any other I have ever seen. I have a name for one you might know it, azzazal . The other one I never got a name but it looked like the devil, whole red body, big, strong, it was laughing at me while I fought it. I guess it didn't think a mortal could defeat it well I did its gone from this world atleast.

1. "Shadow ones"? Clarify.
2. I think you mean "Azazel". I doubt that what you faced was actually the demon that used to be called that. That being is an Archdemon; all but the mightiest sages would stand all of the chance of a snowflake on the Sun against an Archdemon. Whatever you fought was probably coasting on the reputation of Azazel. What was it trying to do?
3. True demons rarely go into the "red skin, horns, hooves, bodybuilder" look. Its too... sanitized, and true demons cannot hide what they are. They radiate their sins of choice like... a radiator. What was this one trying to do?

1) shadow ones, demons with a black vapor body. Usually with glowing eyes, different colors for their strength. 2) I believe it was azazel and it was waging war against me it was leading hundreds of demons after me. 3) the red one came after me and a friend after I sent azazel from this world. My friend became paralyzed when he seen this red thing, when it was gone my friend was able to move again.

Let me stop you right there. That is false. The real world does not use a convenient color-coded mook system. Archdemons don't just pop out of nowhere, leading massive armies to defeat one person, and, even if they did, they would win. Why don't you stop playing games and be serious here? This is why I have problems with Indigos. You always end up being role-players. Let me make this clear:this is not your favorite tv show, or video game, or book. This is not D&D. This is reality. In the real world, true demons don't look like morality-play fare. In the real world, twentysomethings don't make badass last stands against the hordes of "teh ebils" and win. Hordes of "teh ebils" don't EXIST. Let us end this in a civil way, instead of being ugly.

This is what I have done I'm insulted that you say all this bs about how it's impossible to do these things, I have and people have seen it. I could say the same about you and your 11 and say its impossible for man to over though a god or to get godly powers. I didn't, I heard you out and offered aid if I can, instead of insults and what is with this " you are not capable" in your story about the 11 at one time they were just man and then they became strong, we could all be that strong. You doubt and discredit anything that doesn't fit your belief system. I believe it is you with a narrow view.

Then let the public decide who is the bigger man.

• Indigogreen Jan 23, 2013 9:48 PM

  What? I'm not arguing who's the bigger man lol I'm 6'2 and 300 pounds of muscle. In the last year I have trained my body and mind and I have been freeing people. I believe it's because I'm freeing people, that the demons are trying to stop me. Think about it if every person on earth could rid the world of one demon, then all demons would be gone. They fear that so they try to stop me it started out small with just a couple simple demons after that they sent ones that were stronger to see if that would stop me, it didn't. You have the free will to believe what you want and so do I. Taking this public would do nothing other than side track from the real problems.

• Azsuranil Jan 24, 2013 6:28 AM

  1. Anyone can say anything on the internet. If you are 6'2 and 300 pounds of muscle, I am actually an African Pygmy named George. Both statements are equally provable.
  2. Sure. The true demons are so scared of you that you managed to force the most fractious and divided set of beings in the whole of creation to cooperate. True demons don't work in teams. To a true demon, every other true demon can either be ignored, or is competition to it. The idea of them willingly cooperating is as absurd as a fish being the real author of the works of Shakespeare.

  • Indigogreen Jan 24, 2013 8:41 AM

    1) ya anyone can lie anytime Internet or not, I don't lie either way. 2) ok everything I say is impossible ( in your eyes ) but your story about the 11 is the one true thing in this world? lol it reminds me of a video game. You think yourself better than everyone that is a joke. You insult any other belief that is not your own, from what I've seen here you are greedy and motiveded by ego. I am done being peaceful with you and trying to learn your beliefs, while you sit there and insult mine. Goodbye, also I hope a army of demons comes for you lol so you can see your not as strong as you think you are. You say how powerful you are yet you have not mentioned your powers, all you have done is say mine are impossible, you believe yourself the savior of this world, no you are not look you've devided us. If you can't work with people, you can't do anything. 

  • Azsuranil Jan 24, 2013 9:00 AM

    I do not think of myself as a savior. I compile knowledge. I am a desk-jockey who can use magic. I'm no hero. I am not the one claiming to have an Archdemon holding a personal vendetta against me, or having been able to defeat an army of true demons. If an army of true demons came for me, as you wish, I would fall within seconds. I have no delusions about that. You are the one who is wishing death on your critic.

    • Indigogreen Jan 24, 2013 9:50 AM

      2 things 1) I have people that have seen the things that I am talking about and they have noticed the positive change because of my actions. 2) there is a big difference between me and you, you sit there collecting information written by men believing its true when it may not be true, I take action with information that is true. Seeing and feeling is true, words can be false and maybe the information you have about arch demons is a lie from the 11 you believe in.

    • Azsuranil Jan 24, 2013 11:41 AM

      My job is to sort out false knowledge from true. Archdemons require acts of absolute evil or profoundly dark rituals to summon into the world. They are the demonic equals of gods. Could you defeat a god in battle? Because that would be the same.

      • Indigogreen Jan 24, 2013 11:54 AM

        Light is stronger than darkness so yes I can.

      • Azsuranil Jan 24, 2013 12:45 PM

        And that proves your vanity. You think you are stronger than the gods.

        
        
        • Indigogreen Jan 24, 2013 12:56 PM

          No I don't, I am stronger than any darkness because god gives me strength. Anyone is capable of this strength because we are all children of god. I said I would bow to no man but I would bow to my god.

        • Azsuranil Jan 24, 2013 1:07 PM

          And so you show your true colors. You are not the Sword of Righteousness. The Christian God is not the ruler of the cosmos. He does not grant one supreme authority over demons. You do not want cooperation. You want others to bow to your god. True or false: the pagan gods are all demons.